the democratic national convention in charlotte, but michelle obama spent time there. this race is pretty interesting. when you look at some of the exit polling you're seeing the president do very well among women. i think it was 52% we had in the smaller samples of the state, exit polls there. and we're looking at church attendance, where mitt romney is doing a little better than the president. >> brown: but this was the question, stu, for the president, to hold this coalition, the expanding the vote he was able to do in 2008 nay place like north carolina. and as we were hearing from mark and david earlier, in virginia and other places. >> right. in north carolina, with 60%, he has a fighting chance. i think most of us thought he would be a slight underdog, winning by opinion 3% when he was the insurgent candidate, change candidate, it looked more difficult. but north carolina is really interesting. the president won it it last time. it's a close race now. yet, today, the-- voters in north carolina have elected a republican as governor, pat mccrorp. and two years ago, republicans sweeppe